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This page updated December 06, 2006 |
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Fakes, reproductions, replicas, Confederate plates 114 to 117
CSA rectangle, big cast buckle
There is considerable debate about the origin and purpose of these buckles. The originals are very large, sturdy cast plates. A number of them have been found in old collections identified to particular players in the Civil War. However there are no credible battlefield recovered examples. It is possible that these were issued to veterans (United Confederate Veteran or something like this) and that could explain why they landed in the estates of these soldiers. Even if they were issued as veteran pieces, the originals likely date to 19th century.
F1143
"CSA" solid cast large size rectangle buckle made by Hanover Brass
This reproduction CSA Belt plate is a MUST for anyone who enjoys civil war belt buckles. It is cast in red brass and as close as you will get to the original. Marked as a reproduction. The original is in the Virginia Historical Society collection,
Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 6/1/06, Solid Cast CSA Belt Buckle Plate copy from original buckle in the VA .Historical Society Item number: 6633172822
Editor note: "jaglady00" is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions
F1144
"CSA" solid cast large size rectangle buckle made by Hanover Brass
This reproduction CSA Belt plate is a MUST for anyone who enjoys civil war belt buckles. It is cast in red brass and as close as you will get to the original. Marked as a reproduction. The original is in the Virginia Historical Society collection
Source ebay auction by jaglady00 6/13/06 Solid Cast CSA Belt Buckle Plate copy from original buckle in the VA .Historical Society Item number: 6636361649
Editor note: "jaglady00" is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions
F1155
"CSA" solid cast large size rectangle buckle
"WOW............... UP FOR AUCTION IS A 100% GUARANTEED AUTHENTIC EXCAVATED
CIVIL WAR SOLID CAST CSA BELT PLATE. THIS IS A HEAVY PLATE, VERY THICK. THIS WAS
PART OF A LIFE LONG COLELCTION I RECENTLY ACQUIRED FROM THE ORIGNAL OWNER WHOM
PERSONALLY DUG 90% OF THE RELICS IN HIS COLLECTION. THIS PARTICULAR PLATE WAS
DUG IN CARTER COUNTY TENNESSEE NEAR THE NORTH CAROLINA LINE. PERFECT PATINA, HAS
ALL 3 HOOKS ON THE BACK@ 52MM X 80MM IN SIZE AND IS SIMILAR TO PLATE 115 PAGE 68
IN THE MULLINAX CONFEDERATE BUCKLE BOOK. BUCKLE IS VERY RARE AND MULLINAX GIVES
IT A RARITY OF 7. PLEASE EMAIL WITH ANY QUESTIONS, 100% SATISFACTION GUARANTEE
W/ A 3 DAY FULL MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. US SHIPPING WILL BE $8.00"
Source: ebay auction by: vintage_comics_and_collectibles, 7/17/06, "AUTHENTIC EXCAVATED CIVIL WAR SOLID CAST CSA BELT PLATE Item number: 250008085272"
Editor note: This seller sells on ebay auction under "Private Auction" and is frequently the subject of conversation on the NVRHA forum on fakes. It is highly doubtful this piece can be shown to be authentic.
F1156
"CSA" solid cast large size rectangle buckle
This buckle was offered to me on 7/25/06 from: Auctioneer0752@aol.com
[mailto:Auctioneer0752@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:23 PM To:
cwrelicman@adelphia.net Subject: CSA PHOTOS ZIP FILE
Hello, I purchased a bunch of relics from the estate of a deceased man in Eastern Tennessee. There were some great items including this CSA buckle. It is Mullinax plate #114 or #115. It was dug in the mid 70's along the Tennessee/North Carolina border. Any info on value or current rarity? By the way, this is Randy Harville, I found the CS with Stars belt plate awhile back and met you at the Dalton Civil War show. I am sending the photos this way and also in a zip file so you can look at the better pics. Thanks
Editor note: This appears to be the exactly same buckle offered by Vintage Comic a week earlier.
The following additional comment was submitted :
"I had actually called and spoke to "Vintage_
Comics_ and _Collectibles". He stated that he had just acquired a large
hoard of relics from the estate of a deceased man who had personally dug
everything, including this buckle, from Eastern Tennessee. He guaranteed the
buckle to be authentic and dug. He stated that he would give me a 3-day
inspection period and, if not satisfied, he would refund my money. I had never
seen his userID before and he appeared to have decent feedback, so I purchased
it for $1,800.00. Upon receiving the buckle I took it to be examined by Larry
Hicklen of YesterYear Relics at the Stones River Battlefield in Murfreesboro,
TN. He pointed out several red flags that my untrained eye was not accustomed
to: the buckle was a few millimeters smaller in size than the original in
Mullinax's book, which according to Larry is a dead give away of a modern
casting. Secondly, the patina was not uniform and shiny brass could be seen
particularly around the sharp edges. Also, these were originally sand cast and
it was clear that the patina on this buckle was induced artificially as by
rubbing the buckle you could actually smell a chemical residue of some sort.
After pulling my head from the ground, I immediately sent the buckle back and
demanded my refund. I did, to my surprise, receive a full refund. However, a few
weeks later, I saw the same buckle back on Ebay. I reported this to Ebay but to
this date he is still selling everything from flags to buttons to buckles. All
of which, thanks to Larry's info, I can now pretty readily spot as fakes. There
is no bargain when it comes to Confederate relics, so I will play it safe and
dig my own up. LOL. Hope this helps to stop this crook---Thanks----Randy
Harville"
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