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Fakes, reproductions, replicas, Confederate plates 066, & 067
"CS" two piece buckle, artillery style
Original is crude cast, variations noted in the lettering, plate is very tall approx 67mm was apparently intended to be very heavy and almost square two piece buckle.
F1013 CS "Artillery" 2
piece Belt Buckle manufactured by Hanover Brass (Plate 067)
"This reproduction CS Artillery Belt plate is a MUST for anyone who enjoys
civil war belt buckles. It is cast in red brass and as close as you will get to
the original. A rare belt plate. Artillery style. Note how the S is positioned .
The CS was positioned individually in the sand mold causing the letters not to
be straight. Marked as a reproduction. Wear or display."
Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 3/12/06 "CS "Artillery" 2 piece Belt Buckle Plate Item number: 6611643287"
Editor note: "jaglady00" is Hanover Brass, items sold as reproductions
Additional photos and text posted on civilwarfakes.com, (Gary Williams webpage):
"Photo # CS2P12 Plate
067 (Artillery Style) CS Two Piece Belt Plate 65 x 76/wreath ht.48. High copper content. Original dug by Butch Brown who
still has it. Note the crooked S. The foundry crafter pressed a little off into
the sand mold on most of these plates. There are a lot of helpful flaws in this
plate to use."
Editor Note: Noteworthy is the crooked "S" which was crooked in the original. There are quite a few distinct casting flaws in this buckle that are showing up in other examples, the most obvious are the two casting sprues on the back of each keeper, as well as various other air bubbles, etc.
P1503 CS
artillery, another example
Tongue keeper 65.1mm, wreath keeper 63.9mm, wreath height 48.9mm
Source: This buckle was submitted to me for evaluation to purchase, by a collector with a positive reputation.
Editor note: This buckle was nicely aged, this is a patina to kill for. Although presented to me by a reputable collector, he told me he had found this at a flea market, a source that would not be considered reliable. In my opinion, this plate matches F1013, I rejected it and sent it back to the seller.
F1027 CS "Artillery" 2 piece Belt Buckle Plate (CS circle
stamped in plain tongue) manufactured by Hanover Brass (Plate 066 or 067)
"This reproduction CS Artillery Belt plate is a MUST for anyone who enjoys
civil war belt buckles. It is cast in red brass and as close as you will get to
the original. A rare belt plate. Artillery style. Note how the S is positioned .
The CS was positioned individually in the sand mold causing the letters not to
be straight. You can see the outer circle where they stamped the CS in the sand
mold. This is a different type than the other listing. Marked as a reproduction.
Wear or display."
Source: ebay auction by jaglady00 3/14/06 "CS "Artillery" 2
piece Belt Buckle Plate CS circle stamped in plain tongue Item number:
6612255654"
Editor note: "jaglady00" is Hanover Brass, items sold as
reproductions
Additional photos and text posted on civilwarfakes.com, (Gary Williams webpage):
"Photo # CS2P11, Plate
066 (Artillery Style) CS Two Piece Belt Plate 65 x 77/wreath ht.49 Marked GW on the back. If you look closely at the center
you will see a ring going around the CS letters. The casters used a plain type
Artillery two piece for the master. They pressed the CS into the sand mold and
doing this left a shallow ring around the CS letters. Study the plate for flaws
to use. Most of these plates had a high copper content making them red in color."
Editor Note: A minor point, this looks more like Plate 67 than Plate 66 as indicated, the difference primarily being the fatness of the "S" Noteworthy is this ring around the CS and the slash running through the middle of the "S". It should be noted that the slash in the "S" is weak on the ebay photograph, suggesting that casting may have been cleaned up somewhat. There will be variations like this one casting to the next.
F1186 Artillery
two piece made by Hanover Brass
Source: This repro was bought from Hanover Brass
Tongue keeper 65.1mm
Wreath keeper 64.3mm
Wreath height 49.3mm
Editor note: This example is clearly marked with "GW" on both pieces, but I do not see any marks on the Hanover Brass published examples, either those shown on ebay or CivilWarFakes.com
F1125 CS
Artillery wreath offered on ebay by Vintage Comics
"WOW.......................... UP FOR AUCTION IS A TRUE RARITY, WHAT WE HAVE
HERE IS A GENUINE CIVIL WAR CONFEDERATE ARTILLERY STYLE CS BUCKLE TONGUE
PORTION. NICE SHAPE, I HAVE TOOK GOOD PICS SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER FEEL OF HE
BUCKLE. THIS WAS DUG ON PRIVATE LAND NEAR FRANKLIN TENNESSE AND IS PART OF A
HUGE DUG COLLECTION I WILL BE SELLING OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. 3 DAY INSPECTION
PERIOD, SATISFACTION GUARANTEED. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL WITHANY AND ALL
QUESTIONS, US SHIPPING WILL BE $3.00"
Source: ebay auction by vintage_comics_and_collectibles 7/5/06 "GENUINE CIVIL WAR CONFEDERATE CS BUCKLE TONGUE PORTION Item number: 250002884897"
Editor note: This seller sells on ebay auction under "Private Auction" and is frequently the subject of conversation on the NVRHA forum on fakes. It is highly doubtful this piece can be shown to be authentic. Pictures are not definite enough to see all the potential flaws, and we do not have accurate measurements. This piece would need to be examined and measured to make definite determination, however, it appears to be a doctored example of item F1186 or F1027.
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